Interview with Luke Kemp, and Subsequent Discussion | Webinar Recording

First, we had an interview with Luke Kemp, author of Goliath: The History and Future of Societal Collapse. You can view the interview with Luke here:

Or listen to the audio-only version here.

Then on 1st April 2026, we held a webinar where people could come and discuss the issues raised in the interview. You can view a recording of the discussion here:

Here is the original invite to the discussion:

Come Discuss our Interview with Luke Kemp, Author of Goliath: The History and Future of Societal Collapse

Luke Kemp’s Goliath: The History and Future of Societal Collapse is a scholarly and thoughtful exploration of how and why early empires evolved, and then inevitably fell into ruin. Sahra Kress and Jack Santa Barbara interview Luke about his research into how humans lived prior to empires (spoiler alert – people were better off in many ways), what features empires have in common that lead to their demise (the Goliath factor), how our current global empire compares with those of the past, and where we’re headed. And of course, we also explore what’s needed to deal with the current trends toward collapse.